P4 motherboard and AMD motherboard
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Form Factor
ATX (12.00 inches by 9.60 inches [304.80 millimeters by 243.84 millimeters])
Processor
Support for Intel® Core™2 Extreme processor in an LGA775 socket with a 1066 MHz system bus
Support for an Intel® Core™2 Duo processor in an LGA775 socket with a 1066 MHz system bus
Support for an Intel® Pentium® Processor Extreme Edition in an LGA775 socket with a 1066 or 800 MHz system bus
Support for an Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor Extreme Edition supporting Hyper-Threading Technology† (in an LGA775 socket with a 1066 MHz system bus)
Support for an Intel® Pentium® D processor in an LGA775 socket with an 800 MHz system bus
Support for an Intel Intel® Pentium® 4 processor supporting Hyper-Threading Technology† (in an LGA775 socket with an 800 MHz system bus)
View all supported processors
Memory
Four 240-pin DDR2 SDRAM Dual Inline Memory Module (DIMM) sockets
Support for DDR2 800, DDR2 667, or DDR2 533 MHz DIMMs
Support for up to 8 GB of system memory
Support for ECC and non-ECC memory
Chipset
Intel® 975X Express Chipset
Audio
Intel® High Definition Audio subsystem in one of the following configurations:
8-channel (7.1) audio subsystem with five analog audio outputs and two S/PDIF digital audio outputs (coaxial and optical) using the Sigmatel* 9274D audio codec
6-channel (5.1) audio subsystem with three analog audio outputs using the Sigmatel 9227 audio codec
ATI* CrossFire* Multi-GPU Platform Support
ATI CrossFire technology enables two ATI graphics cards to work together for ultimate 3D gaming performance and visual quality
I/O Control
Legacy I/O controller for diskette drive, serial, parallel, and PS/2* ports
LAN Support
Gigabit (10/100/1000 Mbits/sec) LAN subsystem using the Intel® 82573E/82573L Gigabit Ethernet Controller
Peripheral Interfaces
Eight USB 2.0 ports
Four Serial ATA interfaces with RAID support (four additional interfaces available with optional discrete RAID controller)
One parallel ATA IDE interface with UDMA 33, ATA-66/100 support
One diskette drive interface
One serial port
One parallel port
PS/2* keyboard and mouse ports
Expansion Capabilities
Two PCI Conventional* bus add-in card connectors (SMBus routed to both PCI Conventional bus add-in card connectors)
One Primary PCI Express* x16 (electrical x16 or x8) bus add-in card connector
One Secondary PCI Express* x16 (electrical x8) bus add-in card connector
One PCI Express* x16 (electrical x4) bus add-in card connector
Microsoft Vista* Premium Ready
With a PC built with Intel® Core™2 Duo or Intel® Core™2 Quad processors, and the Intel® Desktop Board, you can experience a more responsive and manageable environment of Microsoft Windows Vista* including a new visual sophistication of the Windows Aero* interface.
Related Products
Processors
Intel® Core™2 Extreme processor
Intel® Core™2 Duo processor
Intel® Pentium® Processor Extreme Edition
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor Extreme Edition supporting Hyper-Threading Technology†
Intel® Pentium® D processor
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor supporting Hyper-Threading Technology†
Chipsets
Intel® 975X Express Chipset
Adapters
Intel® 600SM PCI Phone Adapter
The Intel® Desktop Board DG965WH is based on the Intel® G965 Express Chipset that supports 1066-MHz system bus, Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator X3000 (Intel® GMA X3000) with Intel® Clear Video Technology, dual-channel DDR2 800 MHz SDRAM and discrete PCI Express* x16 graphics in the ATX form factor. Premium features such as support for Intel® Viiv™ technology∇, Intel® High Definition Audio (enabling 7.1 surround sound), Dolby* Home Theater* certification, Intel® PRO 10/100/1000 Network Connection and 1394a deliver stability and new features for consumers to enjoy a great digital entertainment experience. This Intel Desktop Board comes with the software required to meet Intel® Viiv™ technology brand verification requirements, which simplifies the task of building a PC based on Intel® Viiv™ technology.The Intel® Desktop Board DG965WH is Microsoft Windows Vista* Premium Ready. The Intel® G965 Express Chipset fully supports the visually stunning Windows Aero* user interface with amazing transition effects and realistic animations.
AMD motherboard
We last took a look at a new Athlon XP processor when AMD released the first CPU based on the Barton core back in February. Back then, we commented that the Athlon XP 3000+, as AMD's new progeny was named, clocked in at 2.16GHz, whereas the older Thoroughbred core-based Athlon XP 2800+ ran at 2.25GHz. Of course, you couldn't get the 2.25GHz Athlon XP 2800+ then -- and you really can't get them now.
AMD Ships the Athlon XP 3200+ (PC Magazine)
Review: Gigabyte 8KNXP Ultra Motherboard
Review: Asus P4C800 Motherboard
However, the 512KB L2 cache (compared to 256K L2 in Thoroughbred chips) gave the Barton a solid performance boost in all but purely CPU-dependent applications. So the new CPU was a step forward for AMD. Today, AMD is announcing the Athlon XP 3200+. The raw clock rate of the 3200+ is only 2.2GHz -- a scant 40MHz over the 3000+. However, AMD has pumped up the frontside bus clock rate from 166MHz to 200MHz, giving it an effective FSB speed of 400MHz (DDR). However, AMD still hasn't hit the 2.25GHz clock rate it briefly achieved with the original 2800+. While the Athlon XP series certainly is an efficient CPU, with a generally higher IPC (instructions per clock) count than the Intel P4, AMD's process technology seems to be stuck in the doldrums.
We noted in our Intel 875P preview that one of the main issues that affect system bandwidth is the imbalance between memory and the CPU. Of course it isn't always necessary to improve clock rate to improve performance. If you can increase the efficiency and speed of data transfer between memory and the CPU, then system performance can improve even if the clock rate doesn't improve. As demonstrated in the 875P article, performance went up in a large number of benchmarks, despite a slight decrease in clock rate when compared to the 3.06GHz P4 with a 533MHz frontside bus.
64-Bits on the Desktop We've written extensively about AMD's x86-64 architecture in the past. Most recently, Nick Stam looked under the hood in his piece on "Inside AMD's Opteron Processor". Nick also gave us some good insight into the Opteron's performance as a server, which was, in a word, stellar. Back in early 2002, microprocessor industry analyst Jim Turley compared the architectures of AMD's x86-64 and Intel's Itanium CPU.
However, as Opteron CPUs have begun entering the channel, it's becoming possible for any user to buy one. Adding to the temptation is Nvidia's release of its Nforce3 Pro/150 chipset, which supports the 1xx series single processor version of AMD's new 64-bit brainchild. Asus is now shipping a motherboard built around nVidia's Nforce3 Pro/150 chipset, called the SK8N. We used it for our testing in this article – albeit with a beta-level bios.
If you speak to AMD and Nvidia, they'll carefully tell you that the Opteron 1xx series and Nforce3 combination is targeted for entry level workstations. This state of affairs is known as "market segmentation". We say, "hogwash". So that's why we put together a killer "workstation", which we just call a desktop, to see how it performed.
It's true that Opteron 144 processors in the channel are currently as scarce as hens teeth, but the dual-processor version, the 244, is available at around $710-740 each. AMD's official price for the Opteron 144 is $660 (quantity 1000), so it's probably not much cheaper than the 244, even if you could get one. The only substantive difference between the 244 and the 144 is that the 2xx series supports a single coherent HyperTransport link (both CPUs support a total of three HyperTransport channels). We used a 144 in the following tests, but the results should be extendable over to a single-processor 244 configuration as well.
Also, AMD will soon be launching the Athlon 64, which is the one actually targeted for desktop CPUs. So AMD's uniprocessor focus will likely be the Athlon 64 family.
We kept these positioning caveats in mind as we ran the test system through our suite of benchmarks.
zargblatt: ... the difference is so large that running benchmarks on 32bit OS and applications are meaningless.
view full post >
Before we get to all the numbers, though, we should point out that the Opteron 144 / Nforce3 combo does make for a sweet desktop PC. Yes, it's more expensive than the most expensive Pentium 4 CPU/motherboard combination you can get. It's not necessarily as fast as the fastest P4 in 32-bit processing in many cases. But the price premium is only around $100, when compared to a 3.2GHz P4 system. you'll have the added benefit of being able to play with 64-bit technology. Call it fun for tech geeks.
The focus of this article is Opteron in a desktop PC configuration. This necessarily means we'll be running 32-bit operating systems and applications. In a few weeks, we'll tackle some serious workstation applications, and experiment with 64-bit operating systems and applications too.
Form Factor
ATX (12.00 inches by 9.60 inches [304.80 millimeters by 243.84 millimeters])
Processor
Support for Intel® Core™2 Extreme processor in an LGA775 socket with a 1066 MHz system bus
Support for an Intel® Core™2 Duo processor in an LGA775 socket with a 1066 MHz system bus
Support for an Intel® Pentium® Processor Extreme Edition in an LGA775 socket with a 1066 or 800 MHz system bus
Support for an Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor Extreme Edition supporting Hyper-Threading Technology† (in an LGA775 socket with a 1066 MHz system bus)
Support for an Intel® Pentium® D processor in an LGA775 socket with an 800 MHz system bus
Support for an Intel Intel® Pentium® 4 processor supporting Hyper-Threading Technology† (in an LGA775 socket with an 800 MHz system bus)
View all supported processors
Memory
Four 240-pin DDR2 SDRAM Dual Inline Memory Module (DIMM) sockets
Support for DDR2 800, DDR2 667, or DDR2 533 MHz DIMMs
Support for up to 8 GB of system memory
Support for ECC and non-ECC memory
Chipset
Intel® 975X Express Chipset
Audio
Intel® High Definition Audio subsystem in one of the following configurations:
8-channel (7.1) audio subsystem with five analog audio outputs and two S/PDIF digital audio outputs (coaxial and optical) using the Sigmatel* 9274D audio codec
6-channel (5.1) audio subsystem with three analog audio outputs using the Sigmatel 9227 audio codec
ATI* CrossFire* Multi-GPU Platform Support
ATI CrossFire technology enables two ATI graphics cards to work together for ultimate 3D gaming performance and visual quality
I/O Control
Legacy I/O controller for diskette drive, serial, parallel, and PS/2* ports
LAN Support
Gigabit (10/100/1000 Mbits/sec) LAN subsystem using the Intel® 82573E/82573L Gigabit Ethernet Controller
Peripheral Interfaces
Eight USB 2.0 ports
Four Serial ATA interfaces with RAID support (four additional interfaces available with optional discrete RAID controller)
One parallel ATA IDE interface with UDMA 33, ATA-66/100 support
One diskette drive interface
One serial port
One parallel port
PS/2* keyboard and mouse ports
Expansion Capabilities
Two PCI Conventional* bus add-in card connectors (SMBus routed to both PCI Conventional bus add-in card connectors)
One Primary PCI Express* x16 (electrical x16 or x8) bus add-in card connector
One Secondary PCI Express* x16 (electrical x8) bus add-in card connector
One PCI Express* x16 (electrical x4) bus add-in card connector
Microsoft Vista* Premium Ready
With a PC built with Intel® Core™2 Duo or Intel® Core™2 Quad processors, and the Intel® Desktop Board, you can experience a more responsive and manageable environment of Microsoft Windows Vista* including a new visual sophistication of the Windows Aero* interface.
Related Products
Processors
Intel® Core™2 Extreme processor
Intel® Core™2 Duo processor
Intel® Pentium® Processor Extreme Edition
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor Extreme Edition supporting Hyper-Threading Technology†
Intel® Pentium® D processor
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor supporting Hyper-Threading Technology†
Chipsets
Intel® 975X Express Chipset
Adapters
Intel® 600SM PCI Phone Adapter
The Intel® Desktop Board DG965WH is based on the Intel® G965 Express Chipset that supports 1066-MHz system bus, Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator X3000 (Intel® GMA X3000) with Intel® Clear Video Technology, dual-channel DDR2 800 MHz SDRAM and discrete PCI Express* x16 graphics in the ATX form factor. Premium features such as support for Intel® Viiv™ technology∇, Intel® High Definition Audio (enabling 7.1 surround sound), Dolby* Home Theater* certification, Intel® PRO 10/100/1000 Network Connection and 1394a deliver stability and new features for consumers to enjoy a great digital entertainment experience. This Intel Desktop Board comes with the software required to meet Intel® Viiv™ technology brand verification requirements, which simplifies the task of building a PC based on Intel® Viiv™ technology.The Intel® Desktop Board DG965WH is Microsoft Windows Vista* Premium Ready. The Intel® G965 Express Chipset fully supports the visually stunning Windows Aero* user interface with amazing transition effects and realistic animations.
AMD motherboard
We last took a look at a new Athlon XP processor when AMD released the first CPU based on the Barton core back in February. Back then, we commented that the Athlon XP 3000+, as AMD's new progeny was named, clocked in at 2.16GHz, whereas the older Thoroughbred core-based Athlon XP 2800+ ran at 2.25GHz. Of course, you couldn't get the 2.25GHz Athlon XP 2800+ then -- and you really can't get them now.
AMD Ships the Athlon XP 3200+ (PC Magazine)
Review: Gigabyte 8KNXP Ultra Motherboard
Review: Asus P4C800 Motherboard
However, the 512KB L2 cache (compared to 256K L2 in Thoroughbred chips) gave the Barton a solid performance boost in all but purely CPU-dependent applications. So the new CPU was a step forward for AMD. Today, AMD is announcing the Athlon XP 3200+. The raw clock rate of the 3200+ is only 2.2GHz -- a scant 40MHz over the 3000+. However, AMD has pumped up the frontside bus clock rate from 166MHz to 200MHz, giving it an effective FSB speed of 400MHz (DDR). However, AMD still hasn't hit the 2.25GHz clock rate it briefly achieved with the original 2800+. While the Athlon XP series certainly is an efficient CPU, with a generally higher IPC (instructions per clock) count than the Intel P4, AMD's process technology seems to be stuck in the doldrums.
We noted in our Intel 875P preview that one of the main issues that affect system bandwidth is the imbalance between memory and the CPU. Of course it isn't always necessary to improve clock rate to improve performance. If you can increase the efficiency and speed of data transfer between memory and the CPU, then system performance can improve even if the clock rate doesn't improve. As demonstrated in the 875P article, performance went up in a large number of benchmarks, despite a slight decrease in clock rate when compared to the 3.06GHz P4 with a 533MHz frontside bus.
64-Bits on the Desktop We've written extensively about AMD's x86-64 architecture in the past. Most recently, Nick Stam looked under the hood in his piece on "Inside AMD's Opteron Processor". Nick also gave us some good insight into the Opteron's performance as a server, which was, in a word, stellar. Back in early 2002, microprocessor industry analyst Jim Turley compared the architectures of AMD's x86-64 and Intel's Itanium CPU.
However, as Opteron CPUs have begun entering the channel, it's becoming possible for any user to buy one. Adding to the temptation is Nvidia's release of its Nforce3 Pro/150 chipset, which supports the 1xx series single processor version of AMD's new 64-bit brainchild. Asus is now shipping a motherboard built around nVidia's Nforce3 Pro/150 chipset, called the SK8N. We used it for our testing in this article – albeit with a beta-level bios.
If you speak to AMD and Nvidia, they'll carefully tell you that the Opteron 1xx series and Nforce3 combination is targeted for entry level workstations. This state of affairs is known as "market segmentation". We say, "hogwash". So that's why we put together a killer "workstation", which we just call a desktop, to see how it performed.
It's true that Opteron 144 processors in the channel are currently as scarce as hens teeth, but the dual-processor version, the 244, is available at around $710-740 each. AMD's official price for the Opteron 144 is $660 (quantity 1000), so it's probably not much cheaper than the 244, even if you could get one. The only substantive difference between the 244 and the 144 is that the 2xx series supports a single coherent HyperTransport link (both CPUs support a total of three HyperTransport channels). We used a 144 in the following tests, but the results should be extendable over to a single-processor 244 configuration as well.
Also, AMD will soon be launching the Athlon 64, which is the one actually targeted for desktop CPUs. So AMD's uniprocessor focus will likely be the Athlon 64 family.
We kept these positioning caveats in mind as we ran the test system through our suite of benchmarks.
zargblatt: ... the difference is so large that running benchmarks on 32bit OS and applications are meaningless.
view full post >
Before we get to all the numbers, though, we should point out that the Opteron 144 / Nforce3 combo does make for a sweet desktop PC. Yes, it's more expensive than the most expensive Pentium 4 CPU/motherboard combination you can get. It's not necessarily as fast as the fastest P4 in 32-bit processing in many cases. But the price premium is only around $100, when compared to a 3.2GHz P4 system. you'll have the added benefit of being able to play with 64-bit technology. Call it fun for tech geeks.
The focus of this article is Opteron in a desktop PC configuration. This necessarily means we'll be running 32-bit operating systems and applications. In a few weeks, we'll tackle some serious workstation applications, and experiment with 64-bit operating systems and applications too.
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